What Color Hat Are We Wearing?

We're debating torture...

This simply amazes me. We . are . debating . torture.

The first thought that occurs to me is, wasn't this one of the reasons we thought bringing Saddam down was a good thing? How many times has the excuse been used that Saddam was a monster who tortured his own people?

So...

Is it just wrong when certain people are tortured?

Is it okay when we do it but certainly not when others who are in opposition to our political slant do the same?

America is suppose to be better than this. America is suppose to be the entity that upholds value and respect for human life. We're the good guys. The white hat dudes that charge in to right the wrong and stop the abuse. We're the ones who are suppose to understand the value of the Geneva Convention and all it's protections of human rights. So what color hat are we wearing when we advocate to uphold and legalize torture? Are we so insanely conceited that we can't grasp this will ultimately come back to haunt us when our own captured soldiers are beaten and abused?

I fear we're going to have more repercussions from the actions of our congress. It sends a loud and clear message that here is another game that the US does not intend to play fairly.

But....
If this is the case, why is Saddam on trial?

I just don't get the double standards.

If Anger Is ALL Ya Got, Ya Got Nuthin!

I'm disgusted with Bush, Rove, Cheney and Rumsfield. Anyone who has read this blog knows this. I'm sure others share the sentiment but if anger is the only thing you bring to the plate then you offer nothing and the body (The US) starves.

I love the debate and the discussion when it's honest recourse and NOT vengeful diatribe but I'm finding that little of that still exists.

A local board became too inflamatory and I pulled away from it, returning only when I behaved almost as badly as the original culprits. That's about all the board was worth.

So I went in search for a board where moderates could discuss. For a few months it was wonderful and then the brigade of the angry marched in, denouncing all republicans as vile and worthless.

What does it take for people to realize you have to bring more to the plate than one liners and talk about how badly you hate people? I don't hate anyone as a person. I despise the actions and policies of this administration.

For some it's easier to hate than discuss. I wonder what they're afraid of.

The Anniversary of 9-11

Please Mr TV Producer, understand something:

I remember where I was on September 11th, 2001.

At the time I was an itinerent teacher who had just arrived at the second school. The secretaries asked me if I had heard about the plane that hit the World Trade Center. Within minutes and while we pondered whether it was an accident or a suicide act, the second plane hit and there was no doubt we were under attack.

I remember watching the towers fall and feeling a pressing need to get to my elderly mother, whom I had talked with but who lived about 20 minutes from my work.

They dismissed us almost as soon as the towers crumbled. Flight 77 which ultimately hit the pentagon, turned and flew directly over our county. It's rumored the state police called the super and told him to send students home. At that time we didn't know what would be next.

When kids were gone, I went to Mom's and for the next few hours sat with her, watching in horrified shock as other planes disappeared.

I don't often cry myself to sleep but I did that night. I couldn't get the thought out of my brain that the people lost must have been horrified and terribly sad to be used as weapons of destruction the way they were.

So, I remember Mr Producer. I remember the events of the day so do us all a favor. If you're going to show some anniversary special DO IT RIGHT. Leave the bullshit partisan politics out of it. Let the people involved tell their OWN story and stop trying to make political points for ANY party from such tragedy.

NBC did a good job tonight with Skies Over America. There are reports that ABC does not intend to follow suit and will air a film entitled: The Path To 9-11 which contains FICTIONALIZED accounts of events prior to 9-11, including words and conversations attributed to Clinton and his staff that NEVER happened.

ABC will show their disrespect for the victims of 9-11 with their airing of this propeganda. It shows how low we've sunk.

I'm boycotting the film. Most won't. Morbid curosity, if nothing else, will call people to the screen.

I hold ABC in the same contempt as I do the conpiracy theorists who want to claim Bush was responsible for 9-11. that bombs really took down the WTC and that a jet couldn't have hit the pentagon.

My anger surfaces here. These people need therapy. I intently dislike Bush but no way do I believe he or Rove either would have killed more than 3000 people in order to gain power.

but for those still not convinced: Go here:http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1